But the moment you use an ordinary camera, you are not seeing the picture, remember, meaning, you had to remember what you`ve taken. Now you could see it of course, with a digital thing, but remember in 1982 you couldn`t.
But slowly I began to use cameras and then think about what it was that was going on. It took me a long time, I mean I actually played with cameras and photography for about 20 years.
And then I went round the corner and there`s a Van Gogh portrait, and you just think, well, this is another level. A higher level, actually. I love the Sargent, but it`s not the level of Van Gogh.